and hillary clinton sitting down talking to "60 minutes." the whole thing airs tonight. i wonder is there talk in washington this isn't in some ways president obama picking favorites in the race to replace him in 2016 because joe biden is also talking about maybe running. >> reporter: that's right, and, you know, joe biden isn't sitting right next to the president in that interview. i don't think president obama has ever done an interview sitting next to anybody but his wife. so you bet there's a lot of talk about that, and we'll talk to our powerhouse roundtable about that. >> you even heard hillary clinton say that this is a surprise, who would have thought four years ago they would be sitting together and being so close. very interesting. also this week hearings, confirmation hearings for the president's defense choice, defense secretary choice, chuck hagel, begin. at times this seemed to vary. what are the odds this is actually going to go through? >> reporter: well, i think the chances are very good that this will go through. he's had a